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Post by kiek on May 30, 2009 17:07:29 GMT 4
Dear All! The idea for this thread came to me last night after reading a couple of, albeit old, articles on chemtrails. It has been quite a topic lately in The Netherlands, but it seems we are not able to arrouse enough interest from the mainstream media!  However, if we can post enough of our own observations here, with photo/film material, date and time when chems occure and what you are experiencing, f.i.: nosebleeds, headaches etc., we accumulate evidence! So I invite every forum member from around the world to make posts here! Much Love to you all, Christa ;-)) |
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Post by kiek on May 30, 2009 17:15:41 GMT 4
Dear Noddie,
I hope you don't mind me putting up a new thread, lets see if it goes anywhere! (Maybe there are some interesting post from other threads that can be transfered to this one, if that would be at all possible?)
Lotsa Love!
Christa ;-X
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Post by kiek on May 30, 2009 17:20:50 GMT 4
What’s that up in the sky? 01-02-2009 | Chemtrails | WWW.NIBURU.NL | A circular contrail over Corvallis about 3 p.m. Thursday caught the eye of of a number of mid-valley residents, including photographer Eli Vande Voorde. We welcome other photos and information about the unusual sight. They can be emailed to news@gtconnect.com. By Alex Paul, Gazette-Times reporter. Jet trail has mid-valley looking up, imaginations soaring A misguided passenger airliner? A military jet on maneuvers? A visitor from another planet who decided not to stick around? An interesting jet contrail over Corvallis Thursday afternoon had some Mid-Valley folks scratching their heads. Contrails over the area are a daily event, since it’s a busy flyway for aircraft into and out of Portland International Airport. But Thursday’s contrail was unusual. It was a long conical shape, open on one side with a point at one end and a loop-the-loop at one end that looked like an O within an oval. Depending on who you asked, it looked like a teenager was out for a joyride in his father’s car and couldn’t resist cutting a cookie high in the air, not on the asphalt. “If there was a solid mass creating it, we would be able to see it, but there’s nothing on our radar. Everything we see is going in a straight path,” said Mike Fergus, a spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration office in Renton, Wash. “This is purely a guess on my part, but it could be connected with some type of military operation that created it in their fly area. Because it’s up so high, may have moved it and it kept it’s basic shape.” Fergus added, “how realistic that is, I don’t know.” Fergus said he’s seen stranger things happen during his years with the FAA and the U.S. Air Force. “I’ve seen a contrail in the shape of a ‘U’ before,” Fergus said. “It was like someone made a U-turn, but it wasn’t a closed loop.” A Polk County employee’s sighting may back up Fergus’ suggestion. She sent the following note to the Gazette-Times about 4:45 p.m Thursday: “We watched the plane make the design in the sky earlier this afternoon from our office windows that face west from the Polk County Courthouse. It is neat that it drifted so far and looked pretty much the same as when it started.” But another viewer noted, “I got a shot of this unusual trail also. I’m an aircraft mechanic and that does not seem like a condensation trail to me.” A contrail is a condensation trail left behind jet airplanes. They form when hot air form the jet’s exhaust systems mixes with cool, low vapor air. A cloud-like shape is formed. The duration of a control can be affected by how much water vapor is in the air. The more water vapor the longer the control can last. Source: Gazettetimes.com
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Post by kiek on May 30, 2009 17:31:43 GMT 4
From an airline mechanic!
"For reasons you will understand as you read this I can not divulge my identity. I am an aircraft mechanic for a major airline. I work at one of our maintenance bases located at a large airport. I have discovered some information that I think you will find important.
First I should tell you something about the "pecking order" among mechanics. It is important to my story and to the cause to which you have dedicated yourself.
Mechanics want to work on three things. The avionics, the engines, or the flight controls. The mechanics that work on these systems are considered at the top of the "pecking order". Next come the mechanics that work on the hydraulics and air conditioning systems. Then come the ones who work on the galley and other non-essential systems. But at the very bottom of the list are the mechanics that work on the waste disposal systems. No mechanic wants to work on the pumps, tanks, and pipes that are used to store the waste from the lavatories.
But at every airport where I have worked there are always 2 or 3 mechanics that volunteer to work on the lavatory systems. The other mechanics are happy to let them do it. Because of this you will have only 2 or 3 mechanics that work on these systems at any one airport. No one pays much attention to these guys and no mechanic socializes with another mechanic who only works on the waste systems. In fact I had never thought much about this situation until last month.
Like most airlines we have reciprocal agreements with the other airlines that fly into this airport. If they have a problem with a plane one of our mechanics will take care of it. Likewise if one of our planes has a problem at an airport where the other airline has a maintenance base, they will fix our plane.
One day last month I was called out from our base to work on a plane for another airline. When I got the call the dispatcher did not know what the problem was. When I got to the plane I found out that the problem was in waste disposal system. There was nothing for me to do but to crawl in and fix the problem. When I got into the bay I realized that something was not right. There were more tanks, pumps, and pipes then should have been there. At first I assumed that the system had been changed. It had been 10 years since I had worked on one. As I tried to find the problem I quickly realized the extra piping and tanks were not connected to the waste disposal system. I had just discovered this when another mechanic from my company showed up. It was one of the mechanics who usually works on these systems. I happily turned the job over to him. As I was leaving I asked him about the extra equipment. He told me to "worry about my end of the plane and let him worry about his!"
The next day I was on the company computer to look up a wiring schematic. While I was there I decided to look up the extra equipment I had found. To my amazement the manuals did not show any of the extra equipment I had seen with my own eyes the day before. I even tied in to the manufacturer files and still found nothing. Now I was really determined to find out what that equipment did.
The next week we had three of our planes in our main hanger for periodic inspection. There are mechanics crawling all over a plane during these inspections. I had just finished my shift and I decided to have a look at the waste system on one of our planes. With all the mechanics around I figured that no one would notice an extra one on the plane. Sure enough, the plane I choose had the extra equipment!
I began to trace the system of pipes, pumps, and tanks. I found what appeared to be the control unit for the system. It was a standard looking avionics control box but it had no markings of any kind. I could trace the control wires from the box to the pumps and valves but there were no control circuits coming into the unit. The only wires coming into the unit was a power connection to the aircraft's main power bus.
The system had 1 large and 2 smaller tanks. It was hard to tell in the cramped compartment but it looked like the large tank could hold 50 gallons. The tanks were connected to a fill and drain valve that passed through the fuselage just behind the drain valve for the waste system. When I had a chance to look for this connection under the plane I found it cunningly hidden behind a panel under the panel used to access the waste drain.
I began to trace the piping from the pumps. These pipes lead to a network of small pipes that ended in the trailing edges of the wings and horizontal stabilizers. If you look closely at the wings of a large airplane you will see a set of wires, about the size of your finger, extending from the trailing edge of the wing surfaces. These are the static discharge wicks. They are used to dissipate the static electric charge that builds up on a plane in flight. I discovered that the pipes from this mystery system lead to every 1 out of 3 of these static discharge wicks. These wicks had been "hollowed out" to allow whatever flows through these pipes to be discharged through these fake wicks.
It was while I was on the wing that one of the managers spotted me. He ordered me out of the hanger telling me that my shift was over and I had not been authorized any overtime.
The next couple of days were very busy and I had no time to continue my investigation. Late one afternoon, two days after my discovery, I was called to replace an engine temperature sensor on a plane due to take off in two hours. I finished the job and turned in the paperwork.
About 30 minutes later I was paged to see the General Manager. When I went in his office I found that our union rep and two others who I did not know were waiting on me. He told me that a serious problem had been discovered. He said that I was being written up and suspended for turning in false paperwork. He handed me a disciplinary form stating that I had turned in false paperwork on the engine temperature sensor I had installed a few hours before. I was floored and began to protest. I told them that this was ridiculous and that I had done this work. The union rep spoke up then and recommended that we take a look at the plane and see if we could straighten it all out. It was at this time that I asked who the other two men were. The GM told me that they were airline safety inspectors but would not give me their names.
We proceeded to the plane, which should have been in the air but was parked on our maintenance ramp. We opened the engine cowling and the union rep pulled the sensor. He checked the serial number and told everyone that it was the old instrument. We then went to the parts bay and went back into the racks. The union rep checked my report and pulled from the rack a sealed box. He opened the box and pulled out the engine temperature sensor with the serial number of the one I had installed. I was told that I was suspended for a week without pay and to leave immediately.
I sat at home the first day of my suspension wondering what the hell had happened to me. That evening I received a phone call. The voice told me "Now you know what happens to mechanics who poke around in things they shouldn't. The next time you start working on systems that are no concern of yours you will lose your job. As it is I'm feeling generous, I believe that you'll be able to go back to work soon" CLICK. Again I had to pick myself from off the floor. I made the connection that what had happened was directly connected to my tracing the mysterious piping. The next morning the General Manager called me. He said that due to my past excellent employment record that the suspension had been reduced to one day and that I should report back to work immediately. The only thing I could think of was what are they trying to hide and who are THEY!
That day at work went by as if nothing had happened. None of the other mechanics mentioned the suspension and my union rep told me not to talk about it. That night I logged onto the Internet to try to find some answers. I don't remember now how I got there but I came across your site. That's when it all came together. But the next morning at work I found a note inside my locked locker. It said, "Curiosity killed the cat. Don't be looking at Internet sites that are no concern of yours."
Well that's it. THEY are watching me.
Well you already know what they are doing. I don't know what they are spraying but I can tell you how they are doing it. I figure they are using the "honey trucks". These are the trucks that empty the waste from the lavatory waste tanks. The airports usually contract out this job and nobody goes near these trucks. Who wants to stand next a truck full of sh--. While these guys are emptying the waste tanks they are filling the tanks of the spray system. They know the planes flight path so they probably program the control unit to start spraying some amount of time after the plane reaches a certain altitude. The spray nozzles in the fake static wicks are so small that no one in the plane would see a thing.
God help us all,
A concerned citizen."
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Post by kiek on May 30, 2009 18:50:13 GMT 4
 This is a pic taken on 07-05-2009 above our appartment in Amsterdam, NL |
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Post by papat on May 30, 2009 23:23:33 GMT 4
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Post by kiek on May 31, 2009 1:26:10 GMT 4
Hello Papa T,
Now is that a rainbow I see over there? Beautiful picture and clip! Thank you!
Much Love to you and yours!
Christa -))
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Post by kiek on May 31, 2009 1:46:42 GMT 4
30-05-2009, 20:48 hrs. Unfortunately, after 2 'very beautiful clear blue sky' days, 'they' are at 'it' again!    |
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Post by ninathedog on May 31, 2009 4:31:07 GMT 4
fantastic, Papa T!!!!!! these shots are fantastic! that's about the same shape and possibly the same size (although it's hard to tell) as the one I was telling you all about in the other thread but the one I saw wasn't pretty colors, beautiful!!! When did you see this and could you see it with your own eyes or just on the camera? |
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Post by papat on May 31, 2009 18:59:38 GMT 4
Hi kiek & Nina I took the photo on the 18th of May. While driving I noticed it and pulled over and snapped this with a cell phone camera. The colors were visible to the eye however, once down loaded to the pc I noticed the other colors under neath. I don't believe it to be a rainbow due to light refracting through water. A typical rainbow arches were this one does not. It was an extremely hot day. This part of the world gets sprayed almost daily. Could be the light refracting through other stuffs  On the days that we are not heavily sprayed, I notice less residue floating on top of the back yard pool surface. Hmmmm think I'll go swimming  The photo Kiek posted, I see some strange manoeuvrings every now and then, usually in the form of a big "S", on rare occasions I will see a plane turn back to its take off direction and a big "U" is visible. I have a few more older pics I'll see if I can dig up. Glad you liked them Have a great weekend Papa T edited in this pic you can see its not your typical rainbow  |
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Post by ninathedog on May 31, 2009 20:30:02 GMT 4
Kiek / Christa, the chemtrails can be quite heavy here as well and it seems that the weather changes a day or two later but I haven't kept really good track of that so I can only say that it seems to be so, not that it is so. Papa T, at first glance, that looked like a ship to me but maybe not after all. You don't seem to have perceived it as such...Mine are quite different, but I have rainbow cloud pictures too -- I think I've posted them before and I'm digging around now to find them, but here's a bunch of photos of chemtrails and also, chemtrails transformed into sky paintings (in some of them, you can see what appears to be a "ship" as I was asked one time: "what is that spot?"  More shots of chemtrail tranformation, in these you can see the "ship" but this couldn't be seen with my eyes, it just showed up in the photos:    As for the chemtrail transformation/"clean up" operations....I've found that if I ASK in my mind, they will SOMETIMES, but not always, come and do this. It's worth a shot, you should try sometime!  Just to see...because you know the concept that if you don't ask for help, you can't or won't be helped. The Law of Non-Interference. I don't often ask anymore because I figure surely "they" must have other things to do that may be more important and anyway, it's so disappointing if "they" don't show up....in any case, the chemtrails don't seem to stick overhead like they used to, so either the spray has changed or the "chembusters" I've buried in the yard actually work, or something else is going on because the spraying operations are still in full force and seem to be heavier than ever -- but at least they aren't every day.          |
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Post by ninathedog on May 31, 2009 20:41:52 GMT 4
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Post by papat on May 31, 2009 20:50:26 GMT 4
Nice Pics Nina, I see electrical current moving through the chem clouds. Just went out side and captured this. I'll leave it up for a short time edited: moved video to the AMALFI |
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Post by towhom on May 31, 2009 21:13:59 GMT 4
The mountains do not like these trails. The winds here are strong and constant.
They are using the earth and water to spread their "particles" here. Water is their main target.
At dusk you can see the results of the "sky battles". The horizon is tinted with red streaks. The mountains shake their tors in defiance.
[Yes, I feel the pressure you are sending my way - enough, goobers. It will not keep me from sharing these thoughts. You should know that by now.]
Winds blow, earth filters, fire burns and water cleanses - may your fruitless endeavors continue to deplete the "false powers" of your delusional tyranny.
There will be Light to the darkness.
Peace and Joy
Always
Sally Anne
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Post by ninathedog on May 31, 2009 21:39:20 GMT 4
Nice Pics Nina, I see electrical current moving through the chem clouds. Just went out side and captured this. I'll leave it up for a short time edited: moved video to the AMALFI yes.... very ugly stuff. thanks for sharing this, Papa T! The mountains do not like these trails. The winds here are strong and constant.
They are using the earth and water to spread their "particles" here. Water is their main target.
At dusk you can see the results of the "sky battles". The horizon is tinted with red streaks. The mountains shake their tors in defiance.
[Yes, I feel the pressure you are sending my way - enough, goobers. It will not keep me from sharing these thoughts. You should know that by now.]
Winds blow, earth filters, fire burns and water cleanses - may your fruitless endeavors continue to deplete the "false powers" of your delusional tyranny.
There will be Light to the darkness.
Peace and Joy
Always
Sally Anne Sally Anne, I'm so sorry you're under "psychic attack" and I pray for your protection, I feel the frustration in your posting and I understand. Although it sounds like you're holding your own, I personally like the white hot shock bolt where I gather everything I have in my core and give it to them all at once. And then I coat myself with energetic protection. Not that you need the advice but this works for me. We are stronger than they are. We make our own energy, they can only take theirs from others. This is why they're so afraid. love and peace to you and all, jen. |
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However, if we can post enough of our own observations here, with photo/film material, date and time when chems occure and what you are experiencing, f.i.: nosebleeds, headaches etc., we accumulate evidence! So I invite every forum member from around the world to make posts here!
Just to see...because you know the concept that if you don't ask for help, you can't or won't be helped. The Law of Non-Interference.
